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Beat_Go_Stick · Jul 05, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

/signed

Why do so many people have so many problems with options??? Hell, if you want aisian features, use them. we are not asking them to take away anything. I'm sure that we awould also all embrace more asian faces if that's a possible option...same with hairstyles.

Alias_X · Jul 05, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Wolydarg

If you want to roleplay a character, you should know that your character comes from an asian background with asian genetic material. Canthan faces are oriental whereas the prophecies faces aren't necesarily so.

/notsigned

So just because our character is in Cantha, it has to be Asian? Now Guild Wars is racist?

Rikimaru · Jul 05, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

It's not like people born in america could appear asian, or that people born in europe could appear african.

This is pretty bad in my oppinion that the faces/hair styles are restricted between chapters. It's like they don't want characters to look unique. Besides, with the lack of asian faces, some people might think ANet is trying to send out a certain stereotype >_>

lyra_song · Jul 05, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I think they ARE indeed trying to create distinctions between Prophecies and Tyrian chars.

Ive played enough to be able to tell a Canthan player from the Tyrian char, thanks to their face/hair. Even if they are wearing armor from one side or another (My Canthan monk wears Tyrian collector armor).

I think this distinction SHOULD exist when it comes to faces because it adds some roleplay value to the game.

I think haircuts should be allowed for either side though. Perhaps a Canthan char can get a Tyrian haircut after "crossing the sea".

As for PVP, they should have complete access to all faces/hair sets.

Rikimaru · Jul 05, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Actually, if you were able to just use any haircut, then you'd be capable of making any combination of face/hair.

bpphantom · Jul 05, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

I'm for choosing any Proph's face with any Proph's hair. Any Fact's face with any Fact's hair.

Still, my Proph's characters are largely better looking than my Fact's. Except for armor. I do like the various Factions armors.

Does-it-Matter · Jul 05, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

So just because our character is in Cantha, it has to be Asian? Now Guild Wars is racist?

That's definately a non-sequitor. Wow...

Ok, don't think it's modern day. Stop thinking that its easy as hell for a person to move across the world when gunpowder is a relatively new invention.

Also, don't think that any of these continents are early-America and they're readily taking in any and all people that come their way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a majority of Asian cities very secluded during the early stages of humans moving across the globe in any frequency?

As I said prior, there's not enough precidence to facilitate people being born AND trained as Heros en mas in Cantha who aren't culturally native.

If you want your character to go over to Cantha, but be Tyrian born (or culturally native to Tyria)? Grab a boat in Lion's Arch.

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Or, for those that want to be trained there. Get run from Post-Searing to Lion's Arch, then to Cantha, then to Shing Jing Island.

Want some flavor text for it?

After the ravages of the Searing, Damien and his parents fled the dying city for new hope. Hoping to take refuge in Kryta with the rest of the refugees, they soon found out it was impossible. The wars with the Tengu and Undead spilled over and threatened the unprotected villagers in a foreign land.

With the last of their savings, and conscripting themselves into servitude to afford the boat ride half way across the world, Damien's parents secured passage on a merchant vessel departing the port city of Lion's Arch for the mysterious land of Cantha.

There, I just added a bit of storyline as to why your low-level character was run a completely different continent.

As I have yet to try this, if your character can't get training on Shing Jing island, well, you ARE an outsider... But there's your excuse to cross the world.

Lord Oranos · Jul 05, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

I think they ARE indeed trying to create distinctions between Prophecies and Tyrian chars.

Ive played enough to be able to tell a Canthan player from the Tyrian char, thanks to their face/hair. Even if they are wearing armor from one side or another (My Canthan monk wears Tyrian collector armor).

I think this distinction SHOULD exist when it comes to faces because it adds some roleplay value to the game.

I think haircuts should be allowed for either side though. Perhaps a Canthan char can get a Tyrian haircut after "crossing the sea".

As for PVP, they should have complete access to all faces/hair sets.

It doesnt add any rp value, you can rp anything you want, I can just say I was a tyrian trader that became interested in the art of the Mesmer in Cantha and gave up my old life to begin anew.

And if its going/not going to apply to pve then it should apply to pvp as well, no favoritism.

General Typhus · Jul 05, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Well, Mr. Jones assured me that this summer there WILL be NPCs that will customize face,skin color, hair, etc. Mr. Jones is no liar.

curtman · Jul 06, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

That's definately a non-sequitor. Wow...

Ok, don't think it's modern day. Stop thinking that its easy as hell for a person to move across the world when gunpowder is a relatively new invention.

Also, don't think that any of these continents are early-America and they're readily taking in any and all people that come their way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a majority of Asian cities very secluded during the early stages of humans moving across the globe in any frequency?

As I said prior, there's not enough precidence to facilitate people being born AND trained as Heros en mas in Cantha who aren't culturally native.

If you want your character to go over to Cantha, but be Tyrian born (or culturally native to Tyria)? Grab a boat in Lion's Arch.

--

Or, for those that want to be trained there. Get run from Post-Searing to Lion's Arch, then to Cantha, then to Shing Jing Island.

Want some flavor text for it?

After the ravages of the Searing, Damien and his parents fled the dying city for new hope. Hoping to take refuge in Kryta with the rest of the refugees, they soon found out it was impossible. The wars with the Tengu and Undead spilled over and threatened the unprotected villagers in a foreign land.

With the last of their savings, and conscripting themselves into servitude to afford the boat ride half way across the world, Damien's parents secured passage on a merchant vessel departing the port city of Lion's Arch for the mysterious land of Cantha.

There, I just added a bit of storyline as to why your low-level character was run a completely different continent.

As I have yet to try this, if your character can't get training on Shing Jing island, well, you ARE an outsider... But there's your excuse to cross the world.

A. It's a fictional world created by ANet that has Magic, which does not exist. There is no point in comparing it with the real world.

B. According to the book, Ascalon did trade with Cantha in the past, so ruling out sea travel and immigration is silly. Unless ANet says there is not sea travel and immigration, it is possible

C. Mhenlo's parents were from Ascalon, and he got his training in Cantha under Togo. Unless ANet says he is the only person to ever do so, it is possible.

D. This is about facial design, not about geography. If ANet made a GW game which did not have a minority face, there would be racist accusations. If some want European descent faces, they should have them. Options are good in games, the more the better. There area couple of faces which do not look European, one for the male Assassin, one for female and male Mesmer, one for male and female rit, and another for the male Ranger. The E has no European face in Factions, I am not sure about the others. From what some have told me, more face options were added to GW in the past, no harm in doing it now.

Kai Nui · Jul 06, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55

I would like to start a factions character some day, it's just all the faces suck and there's such a small amount of choices. I know for PVP I never pick Canthan because I HAETATGLAHGlisagoiahgasfghagjhakhjajkshakghasjd asfhsad jkshauk Factions PVE and everything about it UGH. SO UGLY THE CITY IS KILL ME OH GOD KILL ME.

So in otherwords, I will never make an ugly Canthan unless I get one of the many different prophecies faces. Seriously look through the necromancer canthan vs the necromancer tyrian and it's no competition, it's really very quite pathetic.

/signed with all my heart and soul that you son of a butts at ANET would do this type of crap with us, stop pissing us off and just make this game user f-ing friendly for once and stop your crap of leading this game out of the premise that you can be good right out the box without doing any PVE.

Does-it-Matter · Jul 06, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by curtman

A. It's a fictional world created by ANet that has Magic, which does not exist. There is no point in comparing it with the real world.

Sure there is, plenty of reasons. Every world has rules. There are basic necessities that any world, any universe, must have for it to develop and support life. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that things remain similar except where they are noted to diverge.

Here is another reason to do such things. Fantasy worlds are created by reason-orientated human beings. When someone attempts to create a reality, unless they cover EVERY (and I mean every) detail, their knowledge tends to fill in the blanks with real-world physics (or biology, psychology, etc.)

I don't think I've played in a fantasy game in which boats didn't float in water, but there was no "rule" that said "In the fantasy land of <> boats float." Or light reflects off of objects, or density of molecules is what causes things to float, sink, rest, etc. Or that there is a rotation of objects, etc.

See where I'm going?

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B. According to the book, Ascalon did trade with Cantha in the past, so ruling out sea travel and immigration is silly. Unless ANet says there is not sea travel and immigration, it is possible

Note, I included this in my posts as a viable option. I said that there wasn't a significant percent doing it.

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C. Mhenlo's parents were from Ascalon, and he got his training in Cantha under Togo. Unless ANet says he is the only person to ever do so, it is possible.

Note my flavor text in my last post (that would be the italicised text) as this was the EXACT example I gave (except substituting Damien for Mhenlo.)

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D. This is about facial design, not about geography. If ANet made a GW game which did not have a minority face, there would be racist accusations. If some want European descent faces, they should have them. Options are good in games, the more the better. There area couple of faces which do not look European, one for the male Assassin, one for female and male Mesmer, one for male and female rit, and another for the male Ranger. The E has no European face in Factions, I am not sure about the others. From what some have told me, more face options were added to GW in the past, no harm in doing it now.

Exactly what I said in my first post.

Reading Comprehension. I appreciate the fact that we both came to the same conclusions though, it is reassuring.

TsunamiZ · Jul 06, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

/signed

if c3 is going to be as pathetic as factions, im not buying it...

Nightwish · Jul 06, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by Alias_X

So just because our character is in Cantha, it has to be Asian? Now Guild Wars is racist?

What you said in this sentence implies the same thing of yourself, no? If your not, then you would not mind whether the Factions characters look asian or not.

As for the reason of "ugly/suck" faces, this is not a modelling/fashion show game. Be glad your characters do not sustain scars from battles

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As for the purpose of roleplaying, I agree this is not a bad reason but then again the level of roleplay in GW is appalling, all I see in towns are WTBs/WTSs, not to mention profanities and noob callings.

Lord Oranos · Jul 08, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by Nightwish

What you said in this sentence implies the same thing of yourself, no? If your not, then you would not mind whether the Factions characters look asian or not.

As for the reason of "ugly/suck" faces, this is not a modelling/fashion show game. Be glad your characters do not sustain scars from battles

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As for the purpose of roleplaying, I agree this is not a bad reason but then again the level of roleplay in GW is appalling, all I see in towns are WTBs/WTSs, not to mention profanities and noob callings.

It's been an extremely long time since Ive seen a true rper around, I used to see em in the Uo freeservers... but yeah, everyone has different opinions, likes and dislikes for their character. Heh, I am glad my characters dont get scars... Fable anyone? It seems like we have attracted vulgar, rude people as the majority of the playerbase....

Helios · Jul 08, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

/not signed

If this is an issue of too many ugly faces to choose from, than maybe ANet should just replace those faces with better ones. Honestly, there's some pretty hideous faces that I wish weren't there, but that's just me. But that hasn't stopped me from being able to make each class's appearance to my liking.

Lord Oranos · Jul 09, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Well other people find their choices to make characters in cantha arent in their liking, thats the whole point of this thread. Heh, there are some pretty fugly faces in the choice selection.

TsunamiZ · Jul 10, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

anet is lazy

felinette · Jul 10, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

/signed for prophecies faces and hair, or just more choices in general. The number of choices available right now is pathetic.

TsunamiZ · Jul 12, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

cant even get black hair for assassins